February Office Hours FY2025
February Office Hours Agenda:
- Summary of the Elizabeth Dole Home and Community Based Services for Veterans and Caregivers Act
- National Training Team - Schools Office Hours Frquently Asked Questions (FAQ) Webpage Update
- Locating Updated 85/15 Rule Resources and Enollment Manager (EM)
- Submission of the Edith Nourse Rogers Science Technology Engineering Math (STEM) Claims in Enrollment Manager
Office Hours Presentation: School Certifying Officials can view the playlist of quarterly Office Hours presentations and other training material on the following link: National Training Team-Schools (NTT-S) Webinars and Training Playlist
The following are questions and answers from February 2025 Office Hours. Dole Act (Questions: 1-20) Edith Nourse Rogers Science Technology Engineering Math (STEM) in Enrollment Manager (Questions: 21-41) |
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Question 1: We have an apprenticeship and I'm wondering if programs like ours would need to report to the State Approving Agency (SAA) or Veterans Affairs (VA) if our company, but not our apprenticeship, became subject to an investigation? |
Answer: You should contact the State Approving Agency (SAA) if your company becomes the subject of an investigation. |
Question 2: What about the tuition and fee (T&F) money paid to the school? The student attended and we provided the education and services. Shouldn’t the service member also be responsible for that debt? |
Answer: Section 203 only transfers student debt to the servicemember and only when the servicemember fails to complete the service qualifications that allowed them to Transfer Eligibility to their family members. Any T&F or Yellow Ribbon debt will continue to be placed on the school. The school should continue to follow normal procedures to debt the student, if applicable. Any student debt based on a change in student enrollment would legitimately be associated with that student and school, as per current procedure. |
Question 3: Are we now required to monitor Veterans Employment Through Technology Education Courses (VET TEC) students for 6 months after they gain employment? |
Answer: Criteria for the new High-Tech program are still being developed. As schools become approved for this new program, requirements will be conveyed to School Certifying Officials (SCOs). |
Question 4: When do you anticipate Enrollment Manager (EM) to update with the specialized comment on rounding out? |
Answer: We anticipate Enrollment Manager and Digital GI Bill® (DGI), the Chapter 33 processing system will be updated in time for Spring 26 enrollment. Both systems require updates to accommodate section 208 of the Dole Act. |
Question 5: Does a provisional watch count as punitive action? |
Answer: Education Service is still determining policy for this provision. As more information becomes available, schools will be notified. |
Question 6: For the new Chapter 33 Rounding Out option to be compensated later, is there anything in particular that would need to do within EM so that you all know to go back later once the new system is implemented? |
Answer: Once EM and DGI are updated additional guidance will be provided. In the interim, SCOs should track Chapter 33 students who have chosen to wait until our systems are updated to receive the full-time housing rate. When EM has been updated, SCOs can retroactively certify any term(s) in question. |
Question 7: Study Abroad Changes and Rounding Out: It is my understanding that students no longer need to take the additional classes to get the full-time housing allowance for their Final Term, we have a student who under this new change effective January 2, 2025, would qualify for the full-time rate even though he is only taking 4 units instead of 12. My concern is whether we can confidently advise students on this update, as many are aware of Veterans Affairs (VA) policy changes and are eager to know when it will take effect. The challenge seems to be that the VA doesn’t yet have a clear way to track these students, as there is no option or indicator in EM when certifying their final term. Can you provide guidance on the best way to move forward? |
Answer: The revised Rounding Out rules found in the Dole Act only apply to Chapter 33 students. Once EM and DGI are updated additional guidance will be provided. If the student doesn’t wish to wait to receive retroactive payment for Spring 2025 or later, they may follow the existing Rounding Out rules. In the interim, SCOs should track Chapter 33 students who have chosen to wait until our systems are updated to receive the full-time housing rate. When EM has been updated, SCOs can retroactively certify any term(s) in question. |
Question 8: Veterans Employment Through Technology Education Courses (VET TEC) slide. The employment of the individual by the provider for a period of one year, is this employing the students by our company? Are there benefits for the student as far as paid internships? |
Answer: Criteria for the new High-Tech program are still being developed. As schools become approved for this new program, requirements will be conveyed to School Certifying Officials (SCOs). |
Question 9: What about Veteran Readiness and Employment (VR&E) Chapter 31 students, they receive Monthly Housing Allowance (MHA) under most circumstances if eligible for Chapter 33 when inducted into Chapter 31 VR&E? |
Answer: Please direct all questions regarding Chapter 31 students to the student’s VR&E Counselor. |
Question 10: Where can we find more information about the digital transcripts. We are a small Non College Degree (NCD) Non-Term clock hour school with only one VA student. Are we required to make their official transcript in digital format? |
Answer: All accredited institutions must make available the transcript to any VA student enrolled in any program. For non-accredited institutions of higher learning, they are only required to make available the transcript to student enrolled in a standard college degree program; the requirement does not apply to non-college degree programs. Emailing a portable document format (PDF) transcript satisfies the requirement. |
Question 11: Per legislation, starting August 1st, we will have to provide students with a digital copy of their official transcript. Our university policy is that if a student has a hold with our Bursar’s Office, they are not allowed a copy of their transcript. Does the new law trump our university policy? Regardless of if a student has a hold on their account, will we have to provide a student with a copy of their transcript? |
Answer: Yes, the law requires VA beneficiaries to be able to receive a transcript upon request. |
Question 12: Digital transcripts Section 207 slide. I understand it goes into effect on 8/1/2025, and that it applies to any semester after that effective date. We provide a digital unofficial transcript in our student portal, but this is stating that we’ll need to also have an official transcript in that portal available to students? 1. Make available – For example, is it supposed to be made available on demand? Or can there be a process where they have to request it and then the Registrar’s Office makes it available?2. Eligible person – We know what Veteran means. But what would make someone who is not a Veteran an eligible person? 3. A copy – A copy is singular. Does this mean we only have to provide them with one copy of one transcript one time? Or are we required to give them a copy anytime they want one? 4. Digital format – The Registrar’s Office would have to answer this, but I assume this would be a PDF. They would have to produce a transcript, stamp it as Official, and then save it as a PDF? 5. Cost – Are we allowed to charge the VA student for this transcript, or does it have to be free? |
Answer: Yes, Section 207 of the Dole Act requires schools to make a digital copy of a student’s official transcript available. 1. Make available – The school can devise a process for the student to request the transcript.2. Eligible person – Any student receiving VA educational assistance. 3. A copy – If the school sends the transcript electronically, the student should be able to reuse that copy but the student is not limited to a single request. 4. Digital format – A PDF is acceptable. 5. Cost – The law does not state the transcript must be provided for free. |
Question 13: I asked if the digital transcript requirement was for both unofficial and official also, so an official transcript must have the registrar seal on it. The law states “Official”. I have a question regarding the language of “each eligible person or veteran”. Can we get clarification of who is an “eligible person”? The Dept of Education hasn’t required digital transcripts as of now, but I realize it may be coming. |
Answer: For the purposes of Section 207 of the Dole Act, an eligible person is any individual receiving VA educational assistance benefits. |
Question 14: Please clarify if section 207 applies to accredited Institutions of Higher Learning (IHLs)? If so, we make the official electronic transcript available to all students (including Veterans and VA beneficiaries) for purchase ($20) through Parchment. Does this meet the requirement? Or are educational institutions being asked to provide the official digital copy of the transcript to each Veteran or VA beneficiary for free? |
Answer: Yes, Section 207 applies to both accredited and nonaccredited schools. The law does not state the transcript must be provided for free. |
Question 15: Does the effective date of Jan 2, 2025, for Section 204, impact a letter I received on 28 Jan 2025? The notice came to my school for a debt in the student’s name. |
Answer: Section 204 relates to Risk-Based Surveys Notice to Educational Institutions. Section 203 only transfers student debt to the servicemember and only when the servicemember fails to complete the service qualifications that allowed them to Transfer Eligibility to their family members. Any T&F or Yellow Ribbon debt will continue to be placed on the school. The school should continue to follow normal procedures to debt the student, if applicable. Any student debt based on a change in student enrollment would legitimately be associated with that student and school, as per current procedure. |
Question 16: For the recoupment of benefits, does the VA send the school a debt letter for the tuition and fees that was paid for previous terms, or is the service member/Veteran placed in a debt status for all the entitlements paid out? |
Answer: Section 203 only transfers student debt to the servicemember and only when the servicemember fails to complete the service qualifications that allowed them to Transfer Eligibility to their family members. Any T&F or Yellow Ribbon debt will continue to be placed on the school. The school should continue to follow normal procedures to debt the student, if applicable. Any student debt based on a change in student enrollment would legitimately be associated with that student and school, as per current procedure. |
Question 17: What happens if a student uses Rounding out in their final term, drops courses, and then requests Round out again? |
Answer: Students may use Rounding Out only once per program. If a student drops courses, including the remaining required course(s), they may not Round Out again during that program. |
Question 18: Did you specify how many classes can be added? Example: student is only taking one class. The student would need three additional classes to get too full-time. Can they do that? |
Answer: Under current rounding out rules, students may round-out to reach up to full-time enrollment. Once full-time has been reached, no additional courses may be certified. Please see the SCO Handbook for the additional information regarding what courses can be added under the Rounding Out provision. Policy for the new Rounding Out rules described in Section 208 are still being developed. |
Question 19: In today's training it said that transfer of benefit debt will go to the service member if they do not meet their contractual agreements. How is this possible if schools receive debt which we return then must go after the student to recoup tuition and fee funds? Is this only referring to housing allowance debt? |
Answer: Section 203 only transfers student debt to the servicemember and only when the servicemember fails to complete the service qualifications that allowed them to Transfer Eligibility to their family members. Any T&F or Yellow Ribbon debt will continue to be placed on the school. The school should continue to follow normal procedures to debt the student, if applicable. Any student debt based on a change in student enrollment would legitimately be associated with that student and school, as per current procedure. |
Question 20: Regarding the Rounding Out update, the presenter stated it applies to Chapter 33 students, but the slide showed it applies to all Chapters, which is correct? |
Answer: The Rounding Out provision applies to all benefit chapters. However, the Dole Act Section 208 update is related to the Monthly Housing Allowance (MHA), which is a provision of Chapter 33 benefits only. Please refer to the SCO Handbook for the Rounding Out procedures for non-Chapter 33 students. |
Question 21: I have received several communications from Chapter 35 students that have not received any funds yet for this semester. Why is there such a delay? | Answer: There were some system issues that resulted in payment delays for some Chapter 35 students, but those have been resolved.
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Question 22: Will the Certificate of Eligibility (COE) become available earlier than 30 days after the application has been done? | Answer: Currently, roughly 50% of COEs for Chapter 33 students are automated and provided the same day to the student’s VA.gov account. However, if additional information is needed from the student or if conflicting data is present, the student must wait for a Veterans Claim Examiner (VCE) to review the application and make a final decision for that COE to be issued. Non-Chapter 33 students cannot currently receive an automated electronic response. |
Question 23: When will Chapter 35 recipients be required to verify enrollment (end of month) with the implementation of Benefits Manager (BM) from using Benefits Delivery Network (BDN)? What future term can we expect this to be in effect for our Survivors’ and Dependents’ Educational Assistance (DEA) students? |
Answer: All Chapter 35 beneficiaries will be required to verify their enrollment every month once their claim is processed in Benefits Manager (BM). Beginning in April 2025, select Chapter 35 beneficiaries will be processed in BM. Starting in Fall 2025, all Chapter 35 beneficiaries will be processed in BM. Chapter 35 degree seeking students will receive communication of when to begin and how to verify their enrollment (Chapter 35 students in NCD programs already verify their enrollment each month). SCOs will also receive notification when we are nearing the release to assist in determining what terms will be impacted. |
Question 24: Are there any updates of when Veterans Employment Through Technology Education Courses (VET TEC) will begin again? |
Answer: More details on VET TEC will be provided as they are received. |
Question 25: Will there be further information on how a Veteran would get 'retroactive' housing for rounding out in their last semester if they chose to only take remaining class? Will there be something we need to do? | Answer: The revised Rounding Out rules found in the Dole Act only apply to Chapter 33 students. Once EM and DGI are updated additional guidance will be provided. If the student doesn’t wish to wait to receive retroactive payment for Spring 2025 or later, they may follow the existing Rounding Out rules. In the interim, you should track Chapter 33 students who have chosen to wait until our systems are updated to receive the fulltime housing rate. When EM has been updated, you can retroactively certify any term(s) in question. |
Question 26: Are we as SCOs going to have to go back and do any work retro-actively on the rounding out students who choose to only take necessary courses? |
Answer: Once EM and DGI are updated additional guidance will be provided. If the student doesn’t wish to wait to receive retroactive payment for Spring 2025 or later, they may follow the existing Rounding Out rules. In the interim, you should track Chapter 33 students who have chosen to wait until our systems are updated to receive the fulltime housing rate. When EM has been updated, you can retroactively certify any term(s) in question. |
Question 27: When we certify Chapter 30 or 1606 students, we need to use the benefits manager link? |
Answer: All VA beneficiaries, including Chapters 30, 1606 and 35 are certified in Enrollment Manager. Benefits Manager is an internal system used by VA to process enrollment certification submitted by schools via EM. |
Question 28: Do the new rounding out rules only effect housing allowance or also tuition and yellow ribbon payments. In other words, can a student in their last semester who only needs one course, still get all of the tuition/fees, yellow ribbon, etc. if they are not in full-time hours? |
Answer: All payments are affected if a student rounds out and adds additional courses under the Rounding Out provision, as applicable tuition and fees and Yellow Ribbon are reported for all courses certified. Section 208 of the Dole Act allows a Chapter 33 student to receive full-time Monthly Housing Allowance (MHA), without adding courses in addition to their remaining required course(s), so neither tuition and fees nor Yellow Ribbon would be affected. |
Question 29: Would we be able to participate in the new VET TEC program if we do not participate in the GI Bill program? |
Answer: Schools do not need to be approved by the State Approving Agency for GI Bill benefits in order to be a VET TEC Provider. Details on applying through VA to become a VET TEC provider will be released when they are available. |
Question 30: Would the round out still be the same for a clock hour NCD program with Biology terms? I certify by academic year, and it could be as long as 9 or 10 months depending on student schedule. |
Answer: Rounding out may be used for Non-College Degree (NCD) schools offering courses in credit hours and operating on a term, block, or unit basis.NCD schools offering programs on a clock-hour basis are not authorized to use Rounding Out. |
Question 31: A listserv recently reported we cannot certify the same student under two separate parents' Chapter 35 benefit in EM Can you shed light on this? |
Answer: Students may use benefits from both parents concurrently. Students must apply under both sponsors and must contact their VA Regional Processing Office (RPO) directly to request concurrent payment under both sponsors. This can be done in writing or via Ask VA (AVA). If the student has properly applied and notified the RPO that they would like concurrent benefits, the SCO is only required to submit the enrollment certification under one parent. However, it is suggested that you enter a remark on the certification indicating that the student wants concurrent benefits. |
Question 32: How do I certify practicum units for students that will not receive the full units until the end of the practicum period i.e. a student will receive 8 units for practicum hours for a quarter, but not until the end of the quarter when all hours have been completed. How do I certify this on EM? |
Answer: Please certify the 8 hours as registered for, and if the student does not complete them or their hours decrease, you will amend to reduce the hours at the end of the quarter. |
Question 33: Do the dual objectives need to be in the same general field? |
Answer: Yes, both objectives should be reasonably related to the same career field. |
Question 34: If you are reporting clock hours and need to add custom remarks to amend the certification hours how is this process done, especially for Chapter 33? |
Answer: Custom remarks no longer exist in Enrollment Manager for Chapter 33. If you are trying to report scheduled weekly clock hour changes for a program where the scheduled hours change during the program:
Note: SCOs should not report a change to weekly clock hours if the change is due to absences that do not violate your school’s attendance and progress standards. If absences do violate attendance or progress standards and the student is suspended, you will terminate the certification and select Unsatisfactory conduct, attendance or progress as the termination reason. |
Question 35: How can I report a zero-credit full-time status course's unit? |
Answer: The law does not allow for payment of VA benefits for zero-credit full-time status. Zero- credit coursework may not be certified. |
Question 36: If a student is in their last term and we confer their degree before the new rounding out is available in Enrollment Manager, we would have to recertify the term, because once you terminate due to graduation you can't go back in to amend. So, would we have to recertify and then terminate for graduation? |
Answer: If the student decided to wait for retroactive payment for the new Rounding Out rule, wait to report graduation until after the retroactive reporting has occurred. Save this answer in the student’s file in the event the record is reviewed during a compliance survey. |
Question 37: Can we allow for zero-credit or unit as an acceptable full-time credit status? This is true for all of our graduate students who are done with coursework and are doing dissertations. | Answer: Zero-credit coursework may not be certified. If a graduate student working on a dissertation takes multiple terms for one set of credits and is charged a fee to continue working on the dissertation in terms after the first, the latter terms cannot be certified for any form of reimbursement. |
Question 38: Will the Edith Nourse Rogers Science Technology Engineering Math (STEM) programs be required to be approved by our State Approving Agency (SAA)? If our Web-Enabled Approvals Management System (WEAMS) does not reflect our STEM programs, how do we fix that? Do our STEM programs need to show on our WEAMS 22-1998 Report in order to select the STEM box in Enrollment Manager? |
Answer: All programs must be approved by the State Approving Agency (SAA) for VA benefit payment, excluding Veterans Employment Through Technology Education Courses (VET TEC) and Foreign approvals, which are approved by VA. A STEM program does not require any additional specific STEM Scholarship approval by the SAA.The program must be approved by the SAA and listed on your 22-1998 WEAMS Report, but the STEM indicator in WEAMS is not used and the 22-1998 will likely reflect ‘No’ in the STEM indicator field, even if your school has programs that qualify as STEM programs. When a student applies for the STEM Scholarship, VA will determine STEM program eligibility and notify the school. Only upon notification of STEM program eligibility should you check the STEM Scholarship check box on the student’s Programs Tab in Enrollment Manager. |
Question 39: Why do the students only receive the Certificate of Eligibility (COE) and we as SCO's don't have access to these unless we call the VA Hotline to verify student has VA eligibility to use there VA benefits or student submits them to us? | Answer: Your school can have a policy that requires the student provide proof of eligibility as a requirement for enrollment certification.
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Question 40: If I've done a 2nd certification for a Chapter 33 student adding just tuition and fees, and then after the add/drop, our registrar’s office does a "backdated drop", so I have reduced their credits, do I need to go back in and do a 2nd certification with the reduced tuition and fees. |
Answer: If you have already reported the tuition and fees based on the original enrollment and a student reduces their credits, you must amend the certification to report the new credits and the tuition and fees that would have been charged had the student originally only enrolled in the reduced number of credits. If you have already reduced the credits but failed to report the reduced tuition and fees, you must amend the certification and report the tuition and fees that would have been charged had the student initially enrolled only in the reduced number of credits. Please see the SCO Handbook section ‘Reductions and Withdrawals (Chapter 33)’ for additional information. |
Question 41: Can I get a confirmation that endowed scholarships that can be used for room and board as well as tuition and fees does not need to be deducted from total cost of tuition and fees? |
Answer: You are correct:
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